Overflow cc for Alt Accounts

As you all know, the cc has been incredibly full these past few months resulting in a lot of unranked people being kicked randomly. While talking in the chat I noticed how there are a lot of players that are using multiple accounts all the time. I kind of came up with the idea to have a secondary clan chat where we can put those accounts so they can stop filling up the cc. That way we can still be in a cc amongst likeminded people and have a bit of casual chat going on there as well.

The cc could have only the moderators added for it to be low maintenance. It could also function as a cc to use during certain PvM events. Maybe even direct some people there if the main cc gets too full and people keep getting kicked.

First off, good on you for trying to think of solutions to this problem, Oen. I know how annoying it's been for a lot of people. It's made the CC rather inhospitable for our sizeable contingent of unranked clan members. It's made moderation more difficult for some as well, due to the fact that mods can no longer be ranked on multiple accounts. The clan update really can't come soon enough.

That said, while I think it could perhaps be helpful to have a secondary chat for use during clan events (so as not to fill up the main CC), I also see how it could end up being problematic having something like that available for everyday use.

The way I see it, as an official extension of the main chat, it would need to be held to the same standards we abide by currently, necessitating the same degree of active moderation. It's true enough that we almost always have plenty of mods on at any given time, but splitting the mod team like that is a tough ask. It can be difficult enough to manage a single chat, let alone two that can't effectively communicate with one another. It would also create extra admin work for Bear, as I don't believe you can have more than one clan chat per account, meaning that the initial ban list + future banned members would need to be blocked on the secondary OSRS Advice account as well.

This is just my two cents, of course. I imagine such a setup would work excellently for large clans that don't have the comparatively strict set of rules that we do, and I certainly won't rule out the possibility that it could be a success for us, too. But, as it currently stands (and provided I've understood your suggestion correctly!), I think it'd likely be more trouble than it's worth.

I'm interested in hearing what other people think, though

Honestly, thank you for thinking of an idea and trying to contribute to solving the issue.

Whilst I wish it was as simple as creating a new clan chat - unfortunately it becomes a bit tough to moderate both. Not to mention who would hold the account of the "osrs advice alt" with it being an official extension of Osrs Advice.

I find that reminding people to remove their alts works to a certain degree. But honestly, nothing I said is anything original from Syll's thoughts

I dont hate the idea, and would be willing to moderate the alt cc if needed.

Thanks for the replies so far. You've made some great points and did a great job explaining them.

Moderation was the first issue I thought of myself too. I know how time consuming moderation can be for a cc with strict rules and a large community. I was a clan leader myself for about 5 years and was ranked the "Fast sc" cc in rs2 along the side. We had 1 person create up to a 100 accounts and put them at the GE in a lot of worlds spamming to send trolls our way. I had hoped with the community getting older that there would be fewer issues with trolling and spammers. I'm sure you all still have plenty to deal with though (thanks for your hard work).

I was trying to think of solutions to make moderation less of an issue. Advertising the cc only to people that are already ranked, maybe in discord. Or making it invite only and locking the cc to people who aren't added. It could be opened up for clan events. Though I suppose even the ranked people do still require moderation to some extent. It would also limit the purpose of such a cc more than I'd like.

Another thing you mentioned is the restrictions on low level f2p accounts. In my experience it doesn't take too much time to get past that point. You could have the account accesible for multiple moderators. That's what every clan I've been in has done.

I'm not sure I agree entirely with your point about the number of people in the cc. Yes we've seen a huge increase during quarantine and it will no doubt go down soon but the cc filling up to the max was definitely an issue before that too. It maxed out every evening (gmt+2) from friday to sunday most of the time. I've spoken to people who are unranked and getting kicked while the cc is full is really quite common. I've experienced it multiple times on another account too and it can easily happen a few times per hour.
Lurkers are another thing. Okay they don't chat but I feel like they have a right to be in the cc. There can be a lot of reasons to be quiet and still want to read the chat. They might be pressing a key down to train a certain skill. They might not be very comfortable talking in the english language but do read it. Or maybe they just don't have much to say. You can learn so much just lurking in the cc and reading other people's questions. It's totally understandable that people don't want to go through the effort of getting a rank. We all have busy lives; they might not have time to play all that much and would just have their rank removed for being inactive anyways. I've seen people show up at our clan events that haven't talked at all in cc or public but they still want to come. That's fine to me, everyone is different.

I know it would be useful today, lol Ive been trying to get in for about an hour.