Rank system

I've been a member of this clan for a little under a year, with probably 6ish month of that being away from RS. I decided to come back for GIM and play with 4 other members of the clan and it has been a blast! Decided to rejoin the CC of course because having a community to hang out with makes the game loads more fun.

UNFORTUNATELY, With the way the current rank system is setup with the clan, new or unranked members cannot participate with the chat as much as they should be able to. Why leave members who create an introduction on the forums and join the clan as guests? I really wanted to be a part of this community again as I was prior, especially with my whole GIM group being a part of this clan, but when you see gzzz in the chat by 10 members every 5 mins and have no idea what's going on, it gets old really fast.

I hope you all decide to change around the ranking system in the future, I've never cared about ranks which is why i never pursued getting one in the past, but to withhold part of the community aspect of the clan in the way of drop and level up alerts so you can congratulate fellow members seems very strange.


Thanks,
Schemon

Hey Schemon, I understand the frustration and I wish everyone could see drop and level up notifications but unfortunately this is a design choice by Jagex and not the clan. I'm sure if Bear and the others had a choice they would allow guests to see these broadcasts.

There are a lot of reasons why clan membership takes a while to obtain and these are good reasons, ranging from capacity management to maininting the integrity of the clan spirit. If you hang around a little while and act friendly towards the other people in chat I'm sure you'll be given a sapphire rank in no time.

In the meantime there are plenty of people in the chat who type out the clan broadcasts so that guests can see them as well.

What is the reasoning for not making sapphire the default new member rank after they submit an intro on offsite so they can fully participate.

heya schemon! to echo mowp's sentiment, i get your frustration with the broadcast system! however, sapphires (aka smiley rank from before) have always been earned and not just given, even before the clan system changed. guests are always welcome to participate in chat and clan events, as well as the offsite and discord, and there is almost always a clan member echoing the broadcasts so that guests can see as well

you've probably already seen these but if you haven't, there's some good info on the ranking system as well as joining the cc in these threads:
joining the clan & chat: https://www.osrsadvice.com/t5380-joining-the-clan-chat
how to best get promoted!: https://www.osrsadvice.com/t5415-how-to-best-get-promoted

welcome back to the game! hope you're enjoying cc and gim

Hey @DedSoonTM, happy to help out with the ranking system a bit (though @Mowp is certainly on the right track, and I highly recommend taking a look at the links @Ellipsism posted as well), cuz I fully understand how frustrating it is to be stuck as a Guest, especially when you're missing out on the level and drop broadcasts that everybody perpetually goes nuts over.

I'll start by saying that one of the primary reasons behind the change is a marked lack of space, even prior to the rework. Jagex has given us 500 rank slots to work with, which is a huge improvement over what we used to have, but really not as much as it sounds like when you're dealing with a clan of our size. To put it in perspective, even with the measures we've taken to slow things down, we're nearly 4/5ths of the way full only about five months on. And we've got more trickling in pretty much every day.

We briefly relaxed our requirements during that first week post-update, and that led to a huge number of signups from people wanting to take advantage of what was essentially a free rank. Some of them were already well-known regulars, of course, but we also have a fair number of people coming and going at any given time, taking temporary advantage of the "services" we offer. And wouldn't you know it; plenty of those people now occupy precious rank spots in CC too! Simply put, it's a much safer bet for us to require some amount of proper participation before you're actually allowed in. Yes, due to the aforementioned space limitations, but also because it ensures that our ranks stay meaningful. Mowp worded it very well: "maintaining the integrity of the clan spirit". I think it's fair to say that we expect more from our members than most clans, at least as far as behaviour is concerned. Anyone can create an account and post an introduction in a handful of minutes. Setting the bar that low means coming to terms with the fact that you're no longer able to properly vet anybody that joins, and in my experience, that (unsurprisingly) attracts (or at least does nothing to deter) people that are more trouble than they're worth.

So, we (the mod team), collectively decided that it was much smarter and safer, on both counts, for us to make all ranks earned, despite the extra inconvenience on our end. Now, when you see any rank in the CC, you can be pretty sure that they earned it. And yes, as Elli said, this is far from a new change. It's been in place since early 2020. It's simply more noticeable now with the rework, due to the way Jagex decided to gate off certain features. Trust me, if we could change that, we would.

Anyway, I hope that was at least a little helpful! I have a habit of going off on dumb tangents that don't actually have much meat to them, so I wouldn't be at all surprised if it wasn't For what it's worth, my PMs are always on in-game, on here, and on Discord if you ever have questions. I hope you're enjoying your time back with the clan, despite the extra annoyance. I'm confident you'll be able to earn a rank before too long if you stick around!

I get it now. Was just a LITTLE salty cause of the gzz stuff but i'm over it. worth it for the cool group of people you guys have here

I read this yesterday and can't stop thinking about it, I love hearing about BTS points of view and this thread is great! I also love how open everyone is and although Schemon was annoyed at the beginning (which is understandable when the cc+rank system can be confusing - esp the shout outs that froggos can't see, I really understand how annoying that can be and make you feel left out, I try and shout out when i can but i'll be more vigilant now ) and it ended really nice with indepth explanations & understanding!

Anyway, I know this is an old thread but someone else might like it as much as I did haha k love you all, bye <3

also, sorry back again. can i just add how FRIKKEN LOVELY it is to hear the leader of this clan was too worried about piping up and saying something no-one wanted to hear and now you're the leader

love it. love this. i think we need to do an "interviewing Bear" thread

Is that interviewing Bear thread coming? Would make a heck of a read!